An Interview with

Wayne June

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Narrator and voice artist Wayne June has narrated and produced
many audio books, including the Audio Realms series The Dark
Worlds of H.P. Lovecraft and, for his own AudioBookCase.com,
tales of Robert Louis Stevenson and Edgar Allan Poe.  The SLM
is pleased to talk with him about his work and what led him to it.

 

SLM:  Thanks for doing this interview.  Before we get to the audio books, I'd like to cover a little bit of your background.  I understand you started out as a musician, singing and playing drums in rock bands.  When was this and what kind of rock music were you playing?

 
WJ: Well, I had my first band with regular paying gigs when I was 15 yrs old, touring regionally playing bars and school dances… we were doing the “FM Rock” of the day (basically the FM Radio playlist): Led Zeppelin, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Deep Purple, that kind of stuff; that was the late ‘60s and early ‘70s. Never looked back and I’m still playing regularly for a living today.

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SLM: Later on, you got involved in blues, swing and jazz.  I can see the transition between rock and blues, but how difficult was it to move into swing and jazz where the rhythmic vocabulary is so different?

 
 WJ:
Great question! It really is like learning another language. In moving from one style or genre to another, a drummer has to be aware of the different functions the drums have in the various styles. It’s really a matter of necessity; if you expect to work full time, you can’t limit yourself to one style of music unless you’re a star. That means you might be playing with a rock band one night and a jazz trio the next. If you get a call for a country gig or a soul band it’s a financial loss if you can’t cut it. And you’d better know the difference between the way a drummer serves a Motown tune vs. a Big Band arrangement or a Classic Rock tune if you want call-backs and future paychecks.

 
SLM: You toured with Johnny Winter and recorded with him on his I'm a Bluesman (2004).  What was that like?

 
WJ: Really cool. First of all Johnny was an artist I’d seen perform live dozens of times when I was a kid. I had several of his albums and he was just really a guitar hero, right up there with Clapton or Hendrix. I was with him for almost seven years and in that time we traveled the world: All over Europe and the UK and literally every state in the Union. We played everything from small clubs to theaters to stadiums. We played the Fillmore West, all the House of Blues venues… just too cool. I also had a chance to meet and play with some other music heroes of my past; Leon Russell, Ian Anderson, Joe Walsh, Todd Rundgren, Edgar Winter and Rick Derringer, Robert Plant…  Man, just too many names to drop them all! (Laughs)

 
SLM: You started doing voiceover more than ten years ago.  Among the advice on your website for those interested in doing voiceover, you recommend training.  Did you go through training yourself?  Or did you find that your experience performing and recording music had already prepared you for much of what was necessary?

 
WJ: Some of the musician’s skill-set gave me a leg up: Knowing my way around a recording studio, for example, but I did a lot of study and training, too: More seminars, workshops and classes than I can count. Voice work starts with the ear just like the music biz, and there are stylistic distinctions to be made in learning VO as well: Commercial voiceover, Corporate and Industrial Narration, Documentary Narration, Promos, Audio Theater, Audiobook Narration, and each has its own set of rules. If you try to deliver an audiobook like a radio spot, or a commercial like a corporate video presentation, you’ll never get hired.  There is a range of delivery styles within any given niche as well. You’ve got to know the marketplace and make those decisions reflexively and be able to switch gears at the drop of a hat to give a director what he wants to hear.

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SLM: Three or four years ago, you started recording Dark Worlds of H.P. Lovecraft for Audio Realms.  This is an extensive project—so far, 6 sets of 3-4 disks each.  Was this your first time recording audio books?  And how you did you happen to get involved with Audio Realms?

 
WJ: Not the first by a long shot. First of all I’d been an audiobook fan and listener “forever” before I ever considered production or narration. By the time I started testing the waters I’d had years of listening under my belt, and as I said it all starts with listening. Can you imagine a person wanting to seriously study to become a guitar player, for example, who hadn’t spent a significant amount of time listening to other guitarists? Ridiculous, right? Same thing applies.

 I also specifically studied audiobook narration with Edge Studios in New York as well as devoted time to acting classes and spent I-can’t-begin-to-count-how-many hours recording myself reading aloud and critiquing the performances. Try it for an experiment: record yourself reading a 5-10 minute passage from a novel and then ask yourself: Does this sound like something I could listen to for ten hours or so, or does it sound like someone reading out loud? There’s a huge difference. It’s one of those things that sounds easy and natural when you hear a pro but turns out to be extremely difficult to accomplish.

 I also had the great experience of volunteering at Recording for the Blind and Dyslexic, a national nonprofit organization that produces audiobooks for the visually challenged. I had the opportunity to narrate every kind of material there, and I mean every kind! I did novels, textbooks, plays, poetry, historical material, magazine articles, newspapers; you never knew what was going to come your way on any given day. I even did a microwave oven manual! (laughs).

 As for AudioRealms, I found them on the internet and admired their work, so I called and introduced myself and Fred Godsmark and I have become great friends through our shared interests in audio publishing and the Horror and Fantasy genre. He’s putting out terrific stuff and I know anything that makes it into his catalog is going to be worth having.

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SLM: You've said that you've been a fan of Lovecraft since you were a kid.  How strange was it coming back to his stories to read them aloud, not to mention pronouncing the unpronounceable—for example, some of the utterances from "The Dunwich Horror": "Y'bthnk . . .h'eyhye"?

 
WJ: (Laughs) Yeah, the pronunciations were a challenge… pretty much a matter of working it out phonetically and rehearsing it to death until I was satisfied. I’m hoping I got it close enough to fool a native speaker!

 And yeah, I grew up on Sci-Fi and Horror paperbacks and Lovecraft is unique. He’s morbid and xenophobic and fun and his style is just nuts. Way over the top. Reading him as a kid used to send me running to the dictionary several times per sentence.

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SLM: And you'll be doing The Case of Charles Dexter Ward next in the Dark Worlds series?  (After a recent re-reading, this story has become a favorite of mine.)

 
WJ:  Mine, too, great story. Yeah, we’ve talked about that being next.

 
SLM: When you're recording a book of 3 or 4 disks, how long does it take to get done?  And if something has to be corrected (because of misspeaking, a hitch in the voice, etc.) is it redone on the spot or is there a review and editing process at the end, when corrections are punched in?

 
WJ: Ideally, a 3:1 or 4:1 production ratio is desirable. That is to say 3 or 4 hours work to end up with 1 hour of finished audio. The best method by far is to “edit on the fly.” That means to stop, back up a paragraph, punch in and continue. I’ve used other methods that are considerably more time consuming and had much higher production ratios, but I’m striving to maximize my efficiency without negatively impacting my effectiveness on the artistic level. 

 
SLM: You've mentioned that you listen to quite a few audio books.  Do you find that you become familiar with or follow certain narrators?  For me, George Guidall's Collected Fiction of Jorge Luis Borges and the several books of Wodehouse read by Alexander Spencer are particular standouts, although I admit I haven't yet looked up their other recordings.

 
WJ: Great stuff. Yeah, personally, I listen to audiobooks a minimum of 1 hour every day, (often more); it’s part of my daily routine. It’s an indisputable fact that a narrator can make or break any production. The best material performed imperfectly will be less than satisfying. It’s like listening to a wonderful song played by poor musicians, or seeing a great stage play performed by a bumbling cast. So, yeah, I’ve got my favorite narrators, and there are literally dozens of them. I learn something from them every day, too. I listen purposefully, with a critical ear: Why did he use that inflection, why the change in speed or volume or pitch or whatever. How is the reader handling the emotional tone of a given passage… or a given character over time, or the emotional dynamic between the characters? And, you know, it’s an interesting thing to note that the best narrators will eventually succeed in foiling my attempts to analyze their performance and so wrap me up in the story that the story becomes the star and I forget about the storyteller. Now THAT is the highest level of skill. There are a handful of readers out there whose stuff I will buy no matter what they’re reading. We’re not alone in that either, the best narrators have a loyal fan base.

 
SLM: It's been a couple of years since you started your own company, AudioBookCase.com.  You've got three audio books out—2 in the Poe series Into that Darkness Peering as well as Stevenson's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.  With the celebration of Poe's bicentennial this year, will you be doing more Poe or moving on to other writers?

 
WJ:
Well, AudioBookCase is experiencing growing pains and I find myself having to give it a back seat and often consider it my neglected child, but my updated and “course-corrected intentions” for this year include expanding the Poe series and stepping up production on the other titles as well. I don’t want to be any more specific at this point, but I’m optimistic about seeing a growth-spurt over the course of the next 12 months. If you’ll let me, I’ll be pleased to keep you posted.  And speaking of which, I’d like to thank you for devoting the time and your valuable space to the interview here.

 
SLM: One last question:  If, by the rubbing of a lamp, you could hear a recording of anybody reading anything, what would you choose?

 
WJ: That’s a tough one! I’m tempted to say, “Me, reading the next million seller.” But to answer for real: How about Alexander Scourby reading anything by Charles Beaumont? Scourby was the consummate voice actor with a simply magnificent voice and Beaumont’s work in the fantastic and macabre has literally kept me awake on more than one occasion. I imagine the combination would be discomfiting. Where can I get my hands on that lamp?

  

AudioBookCase
WayneJune.com
WayneJune at Blogger  
The Dark Worlds of H.P. Lovecraft at AudioRealms
The SLM review of Into that Darkness Peering, Vol. 1